Comments on: The limits of Green identity politics http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/ Observations from Carlton's Lone Classical Liberal Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:17:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Sinclair Davidson http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2848 Sinclair Davidson Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:58:02 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2848 Joshua Gans has a nice explanation of the DLP result in Victoria. http://www.economics.com.au/?p=542 Joshua Gans has a nice explanation of the DLP result in Victoria.
http://www.economics.com.au/?p=542

]]> By: Bring Back the Currency Lad's blog http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2847 Bring Back the Currency Lad's blog Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:25:11 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2847 two points. Officially they are not if the winning candidate gets 50% plus 1 but they are counted now as the AEC likes to get 2PP as you stated. This rarely happens by the way. previously they were not so in most elections we do not the full 2 PP result. two points.

Officially they are not if the winning candidate gets 50% plus 1 but they are counted now as the AEC likes to get 2PP as you stated. This rarely happens by the way.

previously they were not so in most elections we do not the full 2 PP result.

]]> By: Christian http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2846 Christian Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:27:17 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2846 Bring Back Currency Lad, preferences are always counted - Even if a candidate gets more than 50%+1, they are counted in order to get a 2 candidate preferred result in the seat. Bring Back Currency Lad, preferences are always counted - Even if a candidate gets more than 50%+1, they are counted in order to get a 2 candidate preferred result in the seat.

]]> By: Sacha http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2845 Sacha Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:59:28 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2845 I've read about voting systems where a second preference is worth 1/2 of a vote, a 3rd preference is worth 1/3 of the vote, and so on... I’ve read about voting systems where a second preference is worth 1/2 of a vote, a 3rd preference is worth 1/3 of the vote, and so on…

]]> By: Sacha http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2844 Sacha Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:57:49 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2844 "The problem I have with preference voting is that somebody else “The problem I have with preference voting is that somebody else

]]> By: Sinclair Davidson http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2843 Sinclair Davidson Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:51:45 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2843 Homer - I understand how the system works. Homer - I understand how the system works.

]]> By: Bring Back the Currency Lad's blog http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2842 Bring Back the Currency Lad's blog Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:40:41 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2842 Sinkers, preferences are only counted if NO candidate get 50% plus one vote. Sinkers,
preferences are only counted if NO candidate get 50% plus one vote.

]]> By: Boris http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2841 Boris Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:40:28 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2841 As someone who has voted in three countries, I think preferential voting is the best by a mile. Yes, it can be argued that it's better to have one gets all, but that means we may have someone winning say 26% and getting elected (if all others get less). Yes we get not our first choice but a lesser evil. Well, in my view, that is the best you can hope for - in ANY system! As someone who has voted in three countries, I think preferential voting is the best by a mile. Yes, it can be argued that it’s better to have one gets all, but that means we may have someone winning say 26% and getting elected (if all others get less).

Yes we get not our first choice but a lesser evil. Well, in my view, that is the best you can hope for - in ANY system!

]]> By: Sinclair Davidson http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2840 Sinclair Davidson Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:55:48 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2840 <blockquote> my vote, finally, only counts once </blockquote> No. You were counted twice. Once for the Greens (say) and once for the ALP (say).

my vote, finally, only counts once

No. You were counted twice. Once for the Greens (say) and once for the ALP (say).

]]> By: Russell http://andrewnorton.info/2006/12/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2839 Russell Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:39:36 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/12/03/the-limits-of-green-identity-politics/#comment-2839 Sinclair - my vote, finally, only counts once. (Not entirely true if the Greens get some funding out of my first preference vote). But I can say that if I can't have the party I want, well, then I prefer the ALP to the Liberals: democracy in action. Sinclair - my vote, finally, only counts once. (Not entirely true if the Greens get some funding out of my first preference vote). But I can say that if I can’t have the party I want, well, then I prefer the ALP to the Liberals: democracy in action.

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