Comments on: David Jones vs Clive Hamilton

By: There is no censorship worth noting in Australia: Clive Hamilton - Somebody Think Of The Children

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:52:04 +0000

[...] must be losing his memory. Did he forget that recent case where those nasty chaps at David Jones tried to silence The Australia Institute’s criticism of their advertising practice…? Some might tag that corporate censorship. The ABC even reported Clive saying it was affront to [...]

By: David Jones does a McLibel? » The Bartlett Diaries

David Jones does a McLibel? » The Bartlett Diaries — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:16:01 +0000

[...] a few substantive posts and comment threads on other blogs - Catallaxy, Larvatus Prodeo and Andrew Norton. « Police on the street | political climate changing on climate change » [...]

By: Andrew Norton

Andrew Norton — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:40:53 +0000

Michelle - Though we all tune out the vast bulk of information, including advertising, that hits our senses every day. It had never occurred to me that advertising of children’s clothing was sexualised until the DJs/Australia Institute controversy. I’ve probably seen the advertising, but with no interest in buying children’s clothes it was instantly forgotten, along with the faces of stangers, types of cars etc that I see every day. I’ve stumbled hopelessly on the phone as market researchers try to get me to remember their client’s advertising (even for water restrictions, most recently, that I am aware of).

Of course I instantly delete everything about the NRL as well.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:18:44 +0000

Andrew,

I disagree with you, that if we don’t like DJ’s advertising then we should just put the catalogue in the bin. For unfortunately, the problem with advertising is its pervasive nature. We have no real choice about seeing it, if we choose to live a normal life for it is full frontal at the bus or tram stop and on TV.
The issue of the sexualisation of children is an interesting case in terms of advertising. However if DJ’s has something to answer for, and I am partial to the case that they may, then so to do many other retailers and companies.

On a tangent note, it does seem as if the tide is changing on some of the sexism so blatantly displayed at the football - of all places. With Russell Crowe determining no more cheer leaders. As you know I am a BIG fan of the NRL and the advertising at any live game is horrendously sexist- and while a great fan of Russell’s acting, though not his antics, his actions in this case has raised my opinion of him. It will be very interesting to see how South fans take the new entertainment model.

By: Club Troppo » Missing Link makes a comeback!

Club Troppo » Missing Link makes a comeback! — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:18:50 +0000

[...] One issue that seemed to excite Ozblogistan was David Jones’ pending lawsuit against Clive Hamilton’s The Australia Institute, and it really showed blogging’s strengths. Everyone from sociologists to economists to lawyers weighed in with some genuinely expert commentary. And the comments threads were pretty classy too. Tigtog over at Larvatus Prodeo got the ball rolling with a thoughtful piece that reflected - among other things - on just how parents deal with the advertising juggernaut. I’ve made no secret of the fact that Clive Hamilton isn’t one of my favourite people, so my piece at Catallaxy suggested that he might find the ensuing writ sandwich a bit hard to swallow. However, some remarks made by Jason Soon and Mark Bahnisch in comments got me thinking, as did Andrew Norton’s thoughtful piece, and I’ve modified my view. The threads all make excellent reading. [...]

By: Mr. G. H. Schorel-Hlavka

Mr. G. H. Schorel-Hlavka — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:46:24 +0000

In recent days I happen to comment to my wife (74) that I find it inappropriate that women are appearing on television in their underwear.
Sure, I admit that looking at a beautiful woman is not something I shy from. Albeit more of recent times, and because it is dished up, but quite frankly I for one hope none of my daughters and/or granddaughters will end up parading in their underwear on television or elsewhere.

Perhaps the word discreet is not common any longer.

My eldest daughter proudly announced I could see my granddaughter on a website in family photo

By: Leopold

Leopold — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:19:14 +0000

That is kind of funny.

I wonder how Clive proposed to determine which advertising is ‘irresponsible and deceptive’. A panel of people who think like him perhaps?