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	<description>Observations from Carlton's Lone Classical Liberal</description>
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		<title>By: trends in dentistry and dental education</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/03/unhealthy-central-planning/comment-page-2/#comment-6233</link>
		<dc:creator>trends in dentistry and dental education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;trends in dentistry and dental education...&lt;/strong&gt;

this article alone provides very clear answer to the most misunderstood part of the issue....</description>
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<p>this article alone provides very clear answer to the most misunderstood part of the issue&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/03/unhealthy-central-planning/comment-page-2/#comment-6194</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 06:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnG - As you can see from the dates, the cutbacks actually happened 4 years before Wooldridge became Minister. The numbers started to climb again during his term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnG - As you can see from the dates, the cutbacks actually happened 4 years before Wooldridge became Minister. The numbers started to climb again during his term.</p>
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		<title>By: johng</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/03/unhealthy-central-planning/comment-page-2/#comment-6193</link>
		<dc:creator>johng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 06:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the disastrous cut back in entry to medical schools by Wooldridge, this was the result of recommendations to Wooldridge from a committee dominated by doctors.  The technical advice indicated clearly that such a decision was silly given the ageing of the population, and the feminisation of the GP workforce. One can only speculate that the doctors saw an advantage to their profession by cutting numbers so as to give themselves more market power and therefore power to raise prices and hence income. Which is what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the disastrous cut back in entry to medical schools by Wooldridge, this was the result of recommendations to Wooldridge from a committee dominated by doctors.  The technical advice indicated clearly that such a decision was silly given the ageing of the population, and the feminisation of the GP workforce. One can only speculate that the doctors saw an advantage to their profession by cutting numbers so as to give themselves more market power and therefore power to raise prices and hence income. Which is what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conrad,  I have been to some of these countries, and many a pleasant afternoon I spent in the Canton "Cultural Park" developing a taste for Chinese Opera (you have to develop it from absolutely zero, gradually .... after 3 years I quite enjoyed it).

Also I was an assiduous reader, in the 1960s, of a friendly Readers Digest format magazine called Sputnik which showed the delights offered by the 'cultural palaces' in the USSR (any other Sputnik readers out there ?). Maybe Boris was more into exercise than culture.

What do you mean "pick the languages children learn" - are you suggesting the kids could pick any lanaguage and be offered some online course? Otherwise, if we're going to train teachers we will have to decide what languages we want kids to learn. I think we're at the very bottom of the OECD table as far as kids learning second languages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conrad,  I have been to some of these countries, and many a pleasant afternoon I spent in the Canton &#8220;Cultural Park&#8221; developing a taste for Chinese Opera (you have to develop it from absolutely zero, gradually &#8230;. after 3 years I quite enjoyed it).</p>
<p>Also I was an assiduous reader, in the 1960s, of a friendly Readers Digest format magazine called Sputnik which showed the delights offered by the &#8216;cultural palaces&#8217; in the USSR (any other Sputnik readers out there ?). Maybe Boris was more into exercise than culture.</p>
<p>What do you mean &#8220;pick the languages children learn&#8221; - are you suggesting the kids could pick any lanaguage and be offered some online course? Otherwise, if we&#8217;re going to train teachers we will have to decide what languages we want kids to learn. I think we&#8217;re at the very bottom of the OECD table as far as kids learning second languages.</p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell,

you really need to go to some of these countries. When I was working in Beijing some years ago now, you could go to a whole expensive museum showing paintings of great Chinese soldiers fighting the wicked enemy (you probably still can). There's a lot of good things you could think of about Chinese culture, but this great waste of money isn't one of them. I'm not saying we should have no funding for the Arts, but great thought needs to be given to it, and this doesn't appear to occur too often. If you look at things like the money dished out to Australian film makers and what we get from it, for instance (another feel good movie about white hard luck man or other such culture stereotype from the same old club of dull directors), I'm not optimistic. In addition, if the money wasn't dished out, one might imagine that we might actually get films people want to watch.
Also the idea that we should pick languages children learn is crazy. When I went to high school, I learnt that very useful language German (in Year 10), and didn't even learn anything useful with it like grammar (nein, nicht ein bissen). Oddly enough, I'm one of the comparitively small number of people in Australia that actually meaningfully uses a European language now and then (which I learnt from a teach yourself book), but I don't see why we should have the government picking them for schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell,</p>
<p>you really need to go to some of these countries. When I was working in Beijing some years ago now, you could go to a whole expensive museum showing paintings of great Chinese soldiers fighting the wicked enemy (you probably still can). There&#8217;s a lot of good things you could think of about Chinese culture, but this great waste of money isn&#8217;t one of them. I&#8217;m not saying we should have no funding for the Arts, but great thought needs to be given to it, and this doesn&#8217;t appear to occur too often. If you look at things like the money dished out to Australian film makers and what we get from it, for instance (another feel good movie about white hard luck man or other such culture stereotype from the same old club of dull directors), I&#8217;m not optimistic. In addition, if the money wasn&#8217;t dished out, one might imagine that we might actually get films people want to watch.<br />
Also the idea that we should pick languages children learn is crazy. When I went to high school, I learnt that very useful language German (in Year 10), and didn&#8217;t even learn anything useful with it like grammar (nein, nicht ein bissen). Oddly enough, I&#8217;m one of the comparitively small number of people in Australia that actually meaningfully uses a European language now and then (which I learnt from a teach yourself book), but I don&#8217;t see why we should have the government picking them for schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just assumed they had already milked the legitimate lottery market for all it was worth. Where's Yobbo with his gambling expertise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just assumed they had already milked the legitimate lottery market for all it was worth. Where&#8217;s Yobbo with his gambling expertise?</p>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, why not fund more govt activities using lotteries? That way, people don't contribute unless they want to and they can win big if they do!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, why not fund more govt activities using lotteries? That way, people don&#8217;t contribute unless they want to and they can win big if they do!!</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sacha - a slippery slope. How much of Victoria's budget now comes from poker machines? We in WA have made a decision as a community to save ourselves from the perils of pokies. Maybe we should just decide to give 5% of all mining royalties to the arts and stop haggling over the amount each year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sacha - a slippery slope. How much of Victoria&#8217;s budget now comes from poker machines? We in WA have made a decision as a community to save ourselves from the perils of pokies. Maybe we should just decide to give 5% of all mining royalties to the arts and stop haggling over the amount each year.</p>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You needn't have public subsidies for Opera Houses or other artistic buildings/events. Isn't there a public lottery in the UK which pays for some parts of the arts, amongst other things? (Or am I getting this confused with something else - I'm feeling very tired at the moment - still adjusting to the daylight saving change).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You needn&#8217;t have public subsidies for Opera Houses or other artistic buildings/events. Isn&#8217;t there a public lottery in the UK which pays for some parts of the arts, amongst other things? (Or am I getting this confused with something else - I&#8217;m feeling very tired at the moment - still adjusting to the daylight saving change).</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris you're such as disappointment as an example of Soviet education. I always imagined the comrades crowding into concert halls every night to hear the latest symphony, and here you are wanting to take the axe to Classic FM.

The 'nature of humankind' (got that from F.Rottles) is that we are fallen and weak Boris, and that's why bad tends to drive out good (the comrades are probably now watching pornographic DVDs on their plasma screens). So we have to keep making an effort to lift our standards - with Classic FM for example.

Instead of restricting Classic FM to subscribers (how would I listen in the car?) we should have every school pupil listening to it - maybe 20 minutes in between their Japanese and Hindi classes.

Boris think of the Sydney Opera House, and then of the Perth Concert Hall - the difference is what art does. Do people in Sydney regret having paid a fortune for their Opera House? Should we not have a National Gallery because most Australians will never see it? (what a genius Gough was to buy Blue Poles). No, you have to keep adding beauty and inspiration, not tear it away. You're in Australia now Boris - breathe freely, expand your horizons, enjoy the finer things of life the community provides .... what's a few dollars for the arts anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris you&#8217;re such as disappointment as an example of Soviet education. I always imagined the comrades crowding into concert halls every night to hear the latest symphony, and here you are wanting to take the axe to Classic FM.</p>
<p>The &#8216;nature of humankind&#8217; (got that from F.Rottles) is that we are fallen and weak Boris, and that&#8217;s why bad tends to drive out good (the comrades are probably now watching pornographic DVDs on their plasma screens). So we have to keep making an effort to lift our standards - with Classic FM for example.</p>
<p>Instead of restricting Classic FM to subscribers (how would I listen in the car?) we should have every school pupil listening to it - maybe 20 minutes in between their Japanese and Hindi classes.</p>
<p>Boris think of the Sydney Opera House, and then of the Perth Concert Hall - the difference is what art does. Do people in Sydney regret having paid a fortune for their Opera House? Should we not have a National Gallery because most Australians will never see it? (what a genius Gough was to buy Blue Poles). No, you have to keep adding beauty and inspiration, not tear it away. You&#8217;re in Australia now Boris - breathe freely, expand your horizons, enjoy the finer things of life the community provides &#8230;. what&#8217;s a few dollars for the arts anyway.</p>
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