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		<title>By: Bring Back CL's blog</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/07/ruddmania-not-spreading-to-bookstores/#comment-8372</link>
		<dc:creator>Bring Back CL's blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,
I profusely apologise if you thought I was having a go at you.
I wasn't.

whether you like or not Howard is a successful long term PM and had interesting times in Opposition. He deserves better from the biorgaphers of OZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,<br />
I profusely apologise if you thought I was having a go at you.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>whether you like or not Howard is a successful long term PM and had interesting times in Opposition. He deserves better from the biorgaphers of OZ.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/07/ruddmania-not-spreading-to-bookstores/#comment-8380</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homer - I'm not disagreeing with you, there should have been more and the interesting times of a 'life and times' approach is the best way to make the book interesting. But I was just trying to explain why it hadn't happened. It's worth noting that the Howard biography coming out next month is from Melbourne University Press, a mid-sized firm but not a highly commercial outfit. It would be interesting to know if they expect to make money from it, or they are doing it because they think it fills an obvious gap whether or not profit is to be had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homer - I&#8217;m not disagreeing with you, there should have been more and the interesting times of a &#8216;life and times&#8217; approach is the best way to make the book interesting. But I was just trying to explain why it hadn&#8217;t happened. It&#8217;s worth noting that the Howard biography coming out next month is from Melbourne University Press, a mid-sized firm but not a highly commercial outfit. It would be interesting to know if they expect to make money from it, or they are doing it because they think it fills an obvious gap whether or not profit is to be had.</p>
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		<title>By: Bring Back CL's blog</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/07/ruddmania-not-spreading-to-bookstores/#comment-8381</link>
		<dc:creator>Bring Back CL's blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,
It is ironic that Howard is one of the most boring people you can meet but his political life has been very interesting.

He was ahem controversial as a very compliant business friendly business and consumers affairs minister, he was a disaster as minster for trade negotions but his period of being treasurer was very interesting.
Either Howard is correct and a lot of submissions to cabinet were rejected or Fraser and Anthony are correct and no submissions went to cabinet.

His time as Oppo leader was riveting.  Howard after all almost choked poor Jim Carlton to death when his double counting blue was exposed by Keating.

There is also the myth he was always an economic liberal

let alone examining the Government record.

I repeat it is an absolute disgrace no -one has written about apart from Barnett's dreadful an inaccurate dirge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,<br />
It is ironic that Howard is one of the most boring people you can meet but his political life has been very interesting.</p>
<p>He was ahem controversial as a very compliant business friendly business and consumers affairs minister, he was a disaster as minster for trade negotions but his period of being treasurer was very interesting.<br />
Either Howard is correct and a lot of submissions to cabinet were rejected or Fraser and Anthony are correct and no submissions went to cabinet.</p>
<p>His time as Oppo leader was riveting.  Howard after all almost choked poor Jim Carlton to death when his double counting blue was exposed by Keating.</p>
<p>There is also the myth he was always an economic liberal</p>
<p>let alone examining the Government record.</p>
<p>I repeat it is an absolute disgrace no -one has written about apart from Barnett&#8217;s dreadful an inaccurate dirge.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/07/ruddmania-not-spreading-to-bookstores/#comment-8376</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 05:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Eric's point, perhaps an hypothesis would be that the more presidential the system, the more it matters which person holds the single-most important job, the more likely is is that biographies will be produced.

On Homer's point, biographers need to be found (and they would rather work on people who are individually interesting, rather than people who are interesting mainly because of the power they hold - into which category Howard falls), and publishers, who have to be convinced there is a viable market for the book. Howard like Rudd is not a complex person and so of less-than-average interest to biographers and would-be readers, plus for publishers the added complication that it is generally thought that right-leaning Australians buy fewer political books than left-leaning Australians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Eric&#8217;s point, perhaps an hypothesis would be that the more presidential the system, the more it matters which person holds the single-most important job, the more likely is is that biographies will be produced.</p>
<p>On Homer&#8217;s point, biographers need to be found (and they would rather work on people who are individually interesting, rather than people who are interesting mainly because of the power they hold - into which category Howard falls), and publishers, who have to be convinced there is a viable market for the book. Howard like Rudd is not a complex person and so of less-than-average interest to biographers and would-be readers, plus for publishers the added complication that it is generally thought that right-leaning Australians buy fewer political books than left-leaning Australians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bring Back CL's blog</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/07/ruddmania-not-spreading-to-bookstores/#comment-8379</link>
		<dc:creator>Bring Back CL's blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is a disgrace that we have one poorly researched hagiography on Howard.

We should have quite a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is a disgrace that we have one poorly researched hagiography on Howard.</p>
<p>We should have quite a few.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/07/ruddmania-not-spreading-to-bookstores/#comment-8375</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MD - There has been one biography of Howard, David Barnett's poorly-received 1997 book, with &lt;a href="http://www.mup.unimelb.edu.au/catalogue/0-522-85334-X.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;another due next month&lt;/a&gt;. I don't think there have been any single-author books in favour of him or the government (at least not from major publishers), though one of the several books on his goverment (as opposed to him personally), an edited collection called &lt;a href="http://www.mup.unimelb.edu.au/catalogue/0-522-85284-X.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Howard Factor&lt;/a&gt;, was generally seen to be sympathetic. I have no information on sales, though it is rare for books on Australian politics to be a commercial success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MD - There has been one biography of Howard, David Barnett&#8217;s poorly-received 1997 book, with <a href="http://www.mup.unimelb.edu.au/catalogue/0-522-85334-X.html" rel="nofollow">another due next month</a>. I don&#8217;t think there have been any single-author books in favour of him or the government (at least not from major publishers), though one of the several books on his goverment (as opposed to him personally), an edited collection called <a href="http://www.mup.unimelb.edu.au/catalogue/0-522-85284-X.html" rel="nofollow">The Howard Factor</a>, was generally seen to be sympathetic. I have no information on sales, though it is rare for books on Australian politics to be a commercial success.</p>
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		<title>By: MorningDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>MorningDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 02:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many books have there been on Howard and how successful have they been? I think I read somewhere he has been the least written about incumbent PM, but I could be wrong on that.

I ask because once in a book store in Kingsford Smith whilst waiting for a flight, I saw a book titled something like "A Report Card on John Howard", which was written by a very right wing author and glowed platitudes on JWH. On my asking about the book, the assistant said the books (two copies only) have been on the shelf for a long while now, and though many people have picked it up (as I did) noone has purchased one.

That is the only book I know about JWH that I have seen in stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many books have there been on Howard and how successful have they been? I think I read somewhere he has been the least written about incumbent PM, but I could be wrong on that.</p>
<p>I ask because once in a book store in Kingsford Smith whilst waiting for a flight, I saw a book titled something like &#8220;A Report Card on John Howard&#8221;, which was written by a very right wing author and glowed platitudes on JWH. On my asking about the book, the assistant said the books (two copies only) have been on the shelf for a long while now, and though many people have picked it up (as I did) noone has purchased one.</p>
<p>That is the only book I know about JWH that I have seen in stores.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/07/ruddmania-not-spreading-to-bookstores/#comment-8373</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 02:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric - Biographies/autobiographies of American presidential candidates seem quite common, and there is a biography of British Opposition Leader David Cameron out, so I don't think this is distinctively Australian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric - Biographies/autobiographies of American presidential candidates seem quite common, and there is a biography of British Opposition Leader David Cameron out, so I don&#8217;t think this is distinctively Australian.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 02:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this some strange Australian phenomenon? I always assumed biographies are written and published after people had left their mark in politics (or society, or whatever). I remember seeing lots of Kim Beazley biographies gathering dust in second hand book stores and now there are even two biographies of someone who just recently became labour leader.

On the other hand, it might provide some extra background information to the voters. Considering these books are like extended newspaper articles, that is not really the case. And, considering the number of books sold, the voters are not very interested. Probably they can only become successful if there is sufficient 'dirt' in it (or when the person has a large family).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this some strange Australian phenomenon? I always assumed biographies are written and published after people had left their mark in politics (or society, or whatever). I remember seeing lots of Kim Beazley biographies gathering dust in second hand book stores and now there are even two biographies of someone who just recently became labour leader.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it might provide some extra background information to the voters. Considering these books are like extended newspaper articles, that is not really the case. And, considering the number of books sold, the voters are not very interested. Probably they can only become successful if there is sufficient &#8216;dirt&#8217; in it (or when the person has a large family).</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with you having read both books. Macklin's book is similar in tone, although a bit more adulatory as one would probably expect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with you having read both books. Macklin&#8217;s book is similar in tone, although a bit more adulatory as one would probably expect.</p>
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