Comments on: Biased poll respondents on biased journalists http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/ Observations from Carlton's Lone Classical Liberal Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:40:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Paris Hilton Sex Tape Video 2 - Paris Hilton Exposed *HOT* http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8993 Paris Hilton Sex Tape Video 2 - Paris Hilton Exposed *HOT* Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:01:23 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8993 <strong>naked paris hilton xxx sex tape video...</strong> Recently leaked footage of the new Paris Hilton sex tape... naked paris hilton xxx sex tape video…

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]]> By: Matthew http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8990 Matthew Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:00:36 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8990 Hi Andrew, I've started at blog at federalelection.com.au, a new site that will be dealing with election matters. It's a non-partisan independant site. I've linked to you and wonder if you might like to include me on your blog roll? Cheers, Matthew Hi Andrew,

I’ve started at blog at federalelection.com.au, a new site that will be dealing with election matters. It’s a non-partisan independant site. I’ve linked to you and wonder if you might like to include me on your blog roll?

Cheers,

Matthew

]]> By: Jaye Newland http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8987 Jaye Newland Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:12:46 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8987 It is my personal opinion that left and right are only wedges, which blunt truthful conversation. The ABC has been hijacked by Howard, the staff are only allowed to criticise the opposition, due to the removal of their right to free speech. Phillip Adams is the only one with courage to call Howard's bluff. Fear is a very strong weapon used in today,s climate, to manipulate and control staff who do not enjoy job security anyway. Re: Russell's comment relating to cannabis and mental illness, are you qualified to make any judgment?. I would be interested to know. It is my personal opinion that left and right are only wedges, which blunt truthful conversation.
The ABC has been hijacked by Howard, the staff are only allowed to criticise the opposition, due to the removal of their right to free speech. Phillip Adams is the only one with courage to call Howard’s bluff. Fear is a very strong weapon used in today,s climate, to manipulate and control staff who do not enjoy job security anyway.
Re: Russell’s comment relating to cannabis and mental illness, are you qualified to make any judgment?. I would be interested to know.

]]> By: Russell http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8985 Russell Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:37:24 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8985 That's true. I was probably doing what you warn of in your post (stereotyping) and thinking "That AN is right wing so what he's saying is .... " That’s true. I was probably doing what you warn of in your post (stereotyping) and thinking “That AN is right wing so what he’s saying is …. “

]]> By: Andrew Norton http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8983 Andrew Norton Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:54:28 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8983 Russell - I have never in my life supported the criminalisation of any sexual activity between consenting adults, and in fact strongly oppose it; and while I would not automatically sign up to the libertarian view on recreational drugs I have, so far as I can recall, avoided the issue while being aware of what others advocate. In this case, I was neither supporting conservative positions nor playing devil's advocate. Many of my posts describe or analyse without advocacy. Russell - I have never in my life supported the criminalisation of any sexual activity between consenting adults, and in fact strongly oppose it; and while I would not automatically sign up to the libertarian view on recreational drugs I have, so far as I can recall, avoided the issue while being aware of what others advocate. In this case, I was neither supporting conservative positions nor playing devil’s advocate. Many of my posts describe or analyse without advocacy.

]]> By: Russell http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8984 Russell Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:50:38 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8984 Not quite Andrew ... you didn't write "conservatives would argue..." but "In fact it would be logical for a conservative to argue that prostitution ..." and "As the links between cannabis use and mental illness become clearer, I would think the conservative case against decriminalisation would become stronger" So even though you then say "Just to be clear, I am not advocating conservative positions, just explaining ..." it seemed to me that you really were supporting the conservative positions. But maybe not, if you were just playing devil's advocate. Not quite Andrew … you didn’t write “conservatives would argue…” but “In fact it would be logical for a conservative to argue that prostitution …”

and

“As the links between cannabis use and mental illness become clearer, I would think the conservative case against decriminalisation would become stronger”

So even though you then say “Just to be clear, I am not advocating conservative positions, just explaining …” it seemed to me that you really were supporting the conservative positions. But maybe not, if you were just playing devil’s advocate.

]]> By: Andrew Norton http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8982 Andrew Norton Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:23:03 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8982 Russell - refer to comment 14. Ken - you were right. Russell - refer to comment 14.

Ken - you were right.

]]> By: Russell http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8986 Russell Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:12:44 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8986 "In fact it would be logical for a conservative to argue that prostitution should be illegal, to take temptation out of the way." That same conservative logic that says making abortion illegal means that women won't have abortions? I retract my guess that most conservatives regard turning the clock back on abortion laws as a lost cause - I think most conservatives probably want the laws left as they are now, ie they've changed positions. Creatures like Tony Abbott surely aren't all that representative of conservatives. Keeping prostitution illegal involves allowing the police to decide who will be prosecuted and who won't ... and we know where that leads. "Criminalisation to them could be argued to set a moral standard or to signal society’s stance on an issue. It’s like the various apologies lefties favour, which will not necessarily have any practical effect." That's an odd thing to argue - criminalisation has very practical consequences, one of the most self-defeating of which is to introduce your petty drug user to a much nastier type of criminal (if they go to jail). There are more constructive and cheaper ways for society to signal its stance. “In fact it would be logical for a conservative to argue that prostitution should be illegal, to take temptation out of the way.”
That same conservative logic that says making abortion illegal means that women won’t have abortions? I retract my guess that most conservatives regard turning the clock back on abortion laws as a lost cause - I think most conservatives probably want the laws left as they are now, ie they’ve changed positions. Creatures like Tony Abbott surely aren’t all that representative of conservatives.
Keeping prostitution illegal involves allowing the police to decide who will be prosecuted and who won’t … and we know where that leads.
“Criminalisation to them could be argued to set a moral standard or to signal society’s stance on an issue. It’s like the various apologies lefties favour, which will not necessarily have any practical effect.”
That’s an odd thing to argue - criminalisation has very practical consequences, one of the most self-defeating of which is to introduce your petty drug user to a much nastier type of criminal (if they go to jail). There are more constructive and cheaper ways for society to signal its stance.

]]> By: Ken Lovell http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8981 Ken Lovell Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:03:56 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8981 LOL Andrew you must know by now that for some people, explaining a point of view automatically means that you agree with it. LOL Andrew you must know by now that for some people, explaining a point of view automatically means that you agree with it.

]]> By: Andrew Norton http://andrewnorton.info/2007/08/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8971 Andrew Norton Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:55:21 +0000 http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2007/08/16/biased-poll-respondents-on-biased-journalists/#comment-8971 Just to be clear, I am not advocating conservative positions, just explaining what they could say and rating their political prospects. Just to be clear, I am not advocating conservative positions, just explaining what they could say and rating their political prospects.

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