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	<description>Observations from Carlton&#039;s Lone Classical Liberal</description>
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		<title>By: Real greenhouse deniers at Fortune Grey</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-62409</link>
		<dc:creator>Real greenhouse deniers at Fortune Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an ANU report, and points out another Andrew - Andrew Norton - who has refashioned the term &#8220;the real greenhouse denialists&#8221; to characterise people who accept climate change, but won&#8217;t change their own lifestyles to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an ANU report, and points out another Andrew &#8211; Andrew Norton &#8211; who has refashioned the term &#8220;the real greenhouse denialists&#8221; to characterise people who accept climate change, but won&#8217;t change their own lifestyles to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Denying personal change for climate change - Andrew Bartlett</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-61533</link>
		<dc:creator>Denying personal change for climate change - Andrew Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andrew Norton put it last year This is the greenhouse ‘denialist’ problem - not a few conservatives arguing that climate [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Mckinlay</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-11023</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Mckinlay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that base load electricity cannot be generated for half the Coal now burnt and water consumption reduced to zero is pure myth. In September 2007 ABARE report to Government outlined how Government was supressing new technology here in Australia. Also a good many coal fired power stations are Government owned,you can imagine the flogging they would get from Coal miners if they were even to think about cuttin back on burning coal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that base load electricity cannot be generated for half the Coal now burnt and water consumption reduced to zero is pure myth. In September 2007 ABARE report to Government outlined how Government was supressing new technology here in Australia. Also a good many coal fired power stations are Government owned,you can imagine the flogging they would get from Coal miners if they were even to think about cuttin back on burning coal.</p>
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		<title>By: parkos</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-10993</link>
		<dc:creator>parkos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still in the alps with the euro-hillbillies.. Some of the attitudes here are distinctly mid 20th century when compared to cosmopolitan Australia. Almost like a timewarp.

 Must have something to do with Mauthausen, a nearby former concentration camp where anyone with money, a brain or a degree or a religion (and I mean school teachers, the Bavarian monarchy and catholic priests not just professors and jews) was killed en masse or interned about 50 years ago. After that, many surviving intellectuals covered up parts of their CV and left for the better money in the states. All this must have left some intellectual vacuum in addition to all the books that had to be replaced.
 Nowadays, anyone who can abbreviate a word is overqualified to letcher at the local uni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still in the alps with the euro-hillbillies.. Some of the attitudes here are distinctly mid 20th century when compared to cosmopolitan Australia. Almost like a timewarp.</p>
<p> Must have something to do with Mauthausen, a nearby former concentration camp where anyone with money, a brain or a degree or a religion (and I mean school teachers, the Bavarian monarchy and catholic priests not just professors and jews) was killed en masse or interned about 50 years ago. After that, many surviving intellectuals covered up parts of their CV and left for the better money in the states. All this must have left some intellectual vacuum in addition to all the books that had to be replaced.<br />
 Nowadays, anyone who can abbreviate a word is overqualified to letcher at the local uni.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-10990</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parkos


Where are you living now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parkos</p>
<p>Where are you living now?</p>
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		<title>By: parkos</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-10991</link>
		<dc:creator>parkos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/internet/mm/home/mm_05/09_05/050919a.ParagraphContainerList.ParagraphContainer0.ParagraphList.0011.File.jpg/050919_mm_multimobil_Logo_Pause_machender_Ferrari.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new badge from Switzerland&lt;/a&gt; for your ferrari by the way JC now you are ready to go out to pasture

 RE: Hydro -- Malmo, Sweden has new housing developments (similar to docklands in Melbourne) that are 50% renewable energy even before you start hooking up to national grids.. There is no reason this could not be a higher percentage in Australia with extra solar energy available.

 The Malmo Torso (Tower) recycles all its own sewerage, although they could still pick up a couple of pointers from Landeryou.

 Rafe, I like the way you stay quiet when you cant reply to an argument. Its very polite, I will put in a good word with your mother in law about your behaviour online, so expect a big sloppy kiss this yuletide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a <a href="http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/internet/mm/home/mm_05/09_05/050919a.ParagraphContainerList.ParagraphContainer0.ParagraphList.0011.File.jpg/050919_mm_multimobil_Logo_Pause_machender_Ferrari.jpg" rel="nofollow">new badge from Switzerland</a> for your ferrari by the way JC now you are ready to go out to pasture</p>
<p> RE: Hydro &#8212; Malmo, Sweden has new housing developments (similar to docklands in Melbourne) that are 50% renewable energy even before you start hooking up to national grids.. There is no reason this could not be a higher percentage in Australia with extra solar energy available.</p>
<p> The Malmo Torso (Tower) recycles all its own sewerage, although they could still pick up a couple of pointers from Landeryou.</p>
<p> Rafe, I like the way you stay quiet when you cant reply to an argument. Its very polite, I will put in a good word with your mother in law about your behaviour online, so expect a big sloppy kiss this yuletide.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-11008</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rajat

I think &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/back_to_the_caves/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; what Parkos has in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rajat</p>
<p>I think <a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/back_to_the_caves/" rel="nofollow">this</a> what Parkos has in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajat Sood</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-10992</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajat Sood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC, haven&#039;t you seen Back to the Future II? In just a few years, we&#039;ll be able to run cars on banana peels, so lighten up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC, haven&#8217;t you seen Back to the Future II? In just a few years, we&#8217;ll be able to run cars on banana peels, so lighten up!</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-11007</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC - I think you&#039;re looking at the wrong end of the cow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC &#8211; I think you&#8217;re looking at the wrong end of the cow.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2007/12/13/the-real-greenhouse-denialists/comment-page-1/#comment-11006</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parkos

There is a growing opinion in Australia that we could obtain baseloas energy from cow farts. do you think it&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parkos</p>
<p>There is a growing opinion in Australia that we could obtain baseloas energy from cow farts. do you think it&#8217;s possible.</p>
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