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	<title>Comments on: Prospect&#8217;s dubious list of top public intellectuals</title>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2008/06/28/prospects-dubious-list-of-top-public-intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-19949</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - is weird.Andrew Norton on the Prospect&#8217;s attempt to damage it&#8217;s credibility with an internet driven poll to nominate top intellectuals.Should students have academic freedom or should they concentrate on mastering a field of study with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; is weird.Andrew Norton on the Prospect&#8217;s attempt to damage it&#8217;s credibility with an internet driven poll to nominate top intellectuals.Should students have academic freedom or should they concentrate on mastering a field of study with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2008/06/28/prospects-dubious-list-of-top-public-intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-17407</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a shocker really. I voted myself, and can&#039;t seem to spot many in the top 100, and I thought that I went with rather conservative (that is, &#039;mainstream&#039;) suggestions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a shocker really. I voted myself, and can&#8217;t seem to spot many in the top 100, and I thought that I went with rather conservative (that is, &#8216;mainstream&#8217;) suggestions!</p>
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		<title>By: Kaya of St Kilda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaya of St Kilda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s pertinent that these Muslims appear on a list irrespective of the rank so that this &#039;big wide wprld&#039; of ours knows that their are others who are making a postive contribution to humanity.

Also, just because they weren&#039;t on the list in 2005 doesn&#039;t mean they didn&#039;t exit or were not &#039;intellectualising&#039;  :)  It might prove those at Prospect had their head in the sand not to realise things are happening outside of their own socio-political worlds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s pertinent that these Muslims appear on a list irrespective of the rank so that this &#8216;big wide wprld&#8217; of ours knows that their are others who are making a postive contribution to humanity.</p>
<p>Also, just because they weren&#8217;t on the list in 2005 doesn&#8217;t mean they didn&#8217;t exit or were not &#8216;intellectualising&#8217;  <img src='http://andrewnorton.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It might prove those at Prospect had their head in the sand not to realise things are happening outside of their own socio-political worlds!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - I missed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10262&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;that Prospect article&lt;/a&gt; when I wrote my post. 

Perhaps weighting votes by their country of origin&#039;s population, where origins can be determined, would help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; I missed <a href="http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10262" rel="nofollow">that Prospect article</a> when I wrote my post. </p>
<p>Perhaps weighting votes by their country of origin&#8217;s population, where origins can be determined, would help.</p>
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		<title>By: John of Newtown</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2008/06/28/prospects-dubious-list-of-top-public-intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-17168</link>
		<dc:creator>John of Newtown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;Says it all about the literati really&quot;:

I guess if you accept the &quot;Long March [of the left] through the institutions&quot; phenomenon, it isn&#039;t surprising that this kind of TV Week vote of the intelligentsia pulls up number 1 for old Noam (adjusted for the Turkish stack).
 
The nice surprise is that the magazine itself is pretty good (as AN said); the other nice surprise is that Bernard Lewis can get recognised.  So things are not 100 per cent dark.

BTW Prospect ran a good article on the whole stacking exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;Says it all about the literati really&#8221;:</p>
<p>I guess if you accept the &#8220;Long March [of the left] through the institutions&#8221; phenomenon, it isn&#8217;t surprising that this kind of TV Week vote of the intelligentsia pulls up number 1 for old Noam (adjusted for the Turkish stack).</p>
<p>The nice surprise is that the magazine itself is pretty good (as AN said); the other nice surprise is that Bernard Lewis can get recognised.  So things are not 100 per cent dark.</p>
<p>BTW Prospect ran a good article on the whole stacking exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: parkos</title>
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		<dc:creator>parkos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have probably read more GMB and read more reviews of GMB&#039;s work by now than any of those mentioned above.
 When he decided to leave catallaxy he single handedly engineered a recession on interesting (particularly to Asperger et al) commentary that seems impossible to reverse given the link between freedom of speech and libertarianism that was severed when the Red Brigades/Genghis Khan&#039;s mob brought him to the guillotine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have probably read more GMB and read more reviews of GMB&#8217;s work by now than any of those mentioned above.<br />
 When he decided to leave catallaxy he single handedly engineered a recession on interesting (particularly to Asperger et al) commentary that seems impossible to reverse given the link between freedom of speech and libertarianism that was severed when the Red Brigades/Genghis Khan&#8217;s mob brought him to the guillotine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Soon</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2008/06/28/prospects-dubious-list-of-top-public-intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-17066</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Soon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Craig Venter is no 72 on this poll and Al Gore is no 12?

Says it all about the literati really.

A century from now our post-human descendants may remember Venter. They sure aren&#039;t going to remember anyone up to perhaps no 19.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Craig Venter is no 72 on this poll and Al Gore is no 12?</p>
<p>Says it all about the literati really.</p>
<p>A century from now our post-human descendants may remember Venter. They sure aren&#8217;t going to remember anyone up to perhaps no 19.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that good intellectuals can emerge under even very unpromising circumstances. But given that the institutions that foster intellectual life - universities, book publishers, and the media - are generally weak and/or censored in the Muslim world, it would be very surprising if they could produce the world&#039;s top 10 intellectuals - and indeed have produced them in the last 3 years, given their much weaker showing in the same poll conducted in 2005.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that good intellectuals can emerge under even very unpromising circumstances. But given that the institutions that foster intellectual life &#8211; universities, book publishers, and the media &#8211; are generally weak and/or censored in the Muslim world, it would be very surprising if they could produce the world&#8217;s top 10 intellectuals &#8211; and indeed have produced them in the last 3 years, given their much weaker showing in the same poll conducted in 2005.</p>
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		<title>By: John of Newtown</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2008/06/28/prospects-dubious-list-of-top-public-intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-17051</link>
		<dc:creator>John of Newtown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that in the poll that saw a concerted push by Mulims for Muslims, Bernard Lewis (currently out of favour in most Middle East studies departments because of his support for US foreign policy) moved up quite a few places to 13th and Aayan Hirsh Ali came in at 15th.  

Re &quot;the Muslim world does not have a single university in the world’s top 500&quot;, this does not necessarily mean Muslims are less likely to appear in intellectuals&#039; lists: they could be working at prestigious Western universities, or not even working at a university (for example Naguib Mahfouz was certainly a contender for intellectual honours).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that in the poll that saw a concerted push by Mulims for Muslims, Bernard Lewis (currently out of favour in most Middle East studies departments because of his support for US foreign policy) moved up quite a few places to 13th and Aayan Hirsh Ali came in at 15th.  </p>
<p>Re &#8220;the Muslim world does not have a single university in the world’s top 500&#8243;, this does not necessarily mean Muslims are less likely to appear in intellectuals&#8217; lists: they could be working at prestigious Western universities, or not even working at a university (for example Naguib Mahfouz was certainly a contender for intellectual honours).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://andrewnorton.info/2008/06/28/prospects-dubious-list-of-top-public-intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-17034</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This aside, Prospect is a very good magazine. I guess having run the survey they felt obliged to publish the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This aside, Prospect is a very good magazine. I guess having run the survey they felt obliged to publish the results.</p>
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