Comments on: The daily disaster – climate change in the media

By: jc

jc — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:02:02 +0000

Careful with the abuse, wiful.

Go ask Algore why he chose 5 years. He was the one who recently said that the polar cop will be gone in that time. Seeing Gore is the leader of the green movement I would have thought most of his zombies would acceot what he says.

So yea, it’s a 5 year bet that the cap is gone.

Are reasonable , intelligent people questioning the science?

Sure they are, David Evans the former head of the Green house office who left after he realized AGW was a ballony is currently giving Tim lambert an intellectual hiding over at Troppo forcing Lambert ro appear like a dribbling baby.

Here go take a look.

http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/12/19/david-evans-greenhouse-sceptic-debates-his-views-on-troppo/

By: charles

charles — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:01:07 +0000

Mitch

If that was the case international trade would increase. I bet you Carbon miles and tariff barriers based on untaxed carbon will become the order of the day, with Europe being the first to impose them.

Lump it or like it we are entering a new age.

By: charles

charles — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:42:22 +0000

Another positive and interesting article.

By: wilful

wilful — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:28:21 +0000

jc, if you made it ten years (recalling that the IPCC said it would be 80 years) I’d take it at odds.

You’re a real wacker if you think there’s any real doubt about the science of climate change.

Happy to agree there’s a whole lotta economics to work through, but anyone who questions the basic science, well they live in a very strange place.

By: Libertarian news & views (18/12/08) « Thoughts on Freedom

Libertarian news & views (18/12/08) « Thoughts on Freedom — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:13:13 +0000

[...] Libertarian news & views (18/12/08) Once again, climate change was a big issue in the libertarian blogosphere. Jennifer Marohasy notes the Rudd 5% commitment and discusses the role of oceans in climate change, we hear that Al Gore says the arctic may disapear, Jim Fryar gives the facts of stranded polar bears, Tim Wilson looks at the climate policy & free trade, while Andrew Norton looks at climate change in the media. [...]

By: Mitch

Mitch — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:10:23 +0000

Something I realised recently is that an ETS would have the opposite effect that tariffs are designed to have. The former benefits offshore businesses at the expense of Australian ones, and the latter vice versa. In this respect, they cancel each other out to some extent, except that we still get the massive overhead costs associated with both.
It’s also particularly odd that one side of politics largely favours both, suggesting to me a degree of inconsistency.

By: charles

charles — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:12:20 +0000

Is the coal industry claiming employment will fall with carbon trading included, or is it just things like, near coastal properties will become coastal type stuff.

By: Andrew Norton

Andrew Norton — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:01:10 +0000

Charles – No, I would not have counted that one. A shipping lane is a positive aspect of climate change. Similarly I did not count articles pointing to possible business opportunities in catering to climate change.

By: charles

charles — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:41:34 +0000

Andrew

I’m curious do you count articles that just give the facts as they are today, for example the one I linked to above as alarmist?

By: charles

charles — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:39:10 +0000

jc Oh yes you are right; sorry. Put up the definition your willing to accept the 3:1 bet on.